Seachem Cupramine

[robertprice]

Probably the best choice for treating salt water fish parasites, espically sharks and rays. The therapeutic dose is only 0.2mg/L, and the toxic dose 0.8 mg/L. Should only start out with 1/2 dose for scaleless fish though, and is will still tox out invertebrates. It is however, a much more utilizable form of copper for fish parasites.

[stevem]

still the best treatment for most saltwater fish is always copper
I know not scaless
there r some exceptions as always

[stevem]

but of coarse if we take proper care of our fish and always quarantine we would not have a problem
also look over your fish before buying and ask the store to fed them
if they do not eat do not buy them
if the fish store refuse to feed them leave

[robertprice]

I always put my finger in a tank before I buy a fish to see if it will come up to eat. This works very well to cull out the healtheir, better acclimated ones.

[robertprice]

Cpuramine ha copper, but it's not ionic so it's released slower. They claim it has much higher tolerance lwvels for sensitive fish. You have to use it for a longer time as well, You're right though. I use Coppersafe unless I'm treating scaleless fish.

[stevem]

u put your finger in my tank u get thrown out
most store would not be happy with that
there could be soap or cologne
not good

[robertprice]

I never use cologne and I wash my hands with alcohol based sanitizer. That nothwithstanding, you don't have to actually put your finger in the water. Hungry, healthy ciclhids and many other types will come right up to the top when they see a finger or hand. The ones that stay on the bottom are more likely to br sick or off feed.

[stevem]

i usually look for active fish
and will ask the lps to feed them

[robertprice]

That's probably the best option for many fish. Cichlids are accustomed to coming up to the top as soon as they see you if they are healthy, but other fish are more shy.

[stevem]

of coarse diiferent fish react differently
but eating is eating

[stevem]

not eating is dying

[robertprice]

I wouldn't automatically say not eating is dying. A fish that has only recently arrived at a store may not be acclimated and not interested in eating yet. My female Flowerhorn was in a 100 gallon high tank with a bunch of Parrot Cichlids and Red Devils when I bought her. She actually was then and is still primarily a bottom feeder, but I chose her because she was perky and picking fights with the couple of Red Devils in her tank. She didn't eat the first 2 days I had her because I was feeding floating pellets, and she had not gone up to the top recently. So, I gave her sinking pellets which she ate. Now she has learned to come up to the top as well.

[armia741]

You have to use it for a longer time as well, You're right though.

[stevem]

yes sometimes fish will stop eating when being shipped, from the stress. But for A short time
i have still not found a fish that doesnt eat and live.
would be cool, so if u discover one let me know.